Hounslow Council

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Apologies for absence, declarations of interest or any other communications from Members


Apologies for absence were noted from Councillors Tony Louki and Paul Lunch and from Kamal Ahmad.


There were no declarations of interest.


Minutes of the meeting held on 20th July 2015 pdf icon PDF 61 KB


The minutes of the meeting held on 20th July 2015 were agreed as accurate and signed by the Chair.




Matters Arising


There were no matters arising from the minutes of the meeting held on

20th July 2015.


Local Safeguarding Children's Board Annual Report pdf icon PDF 1 MB

Additional documents:


See the report by Ben Knight, Policy and Scrutiny Officer, Agenda item 4, page 4 and the annual report of the Local Safeguarding Children Board, agenda item 4.1, page 7.


The Chair welcomed Donald McPhail, Chair, Local Safeguarding Children Board (LSCB), to give an overview of the report and answer any questions from Members.


Donald McPhail gave the following overview of the annual report:


The report detailed the work done by the LSCB over the year such as:

-        Strengthened the LSCB Board in response to the inspection in January 2014

-        Substantial focus on Child Sexual Exploitation (CSE) by board in conjunction with activity over period. 

-        Substantial attention given to prevention of Female Genital Mutilation (FGM).  Mr McPhail said that this had not been regarded as a big factor in the UK in previous years and cases reported not followed up.

-        Support offered to schools in relation to self-harming

-        Planning day to establish what achieved

-        Continued focus on CSE, FGM and missing children

-        Review on governance

-         Plan to review Child Death Overview Panel (CDOP)


Donald McPhail responded to questions from Members, including questions from non-panel member Cllr John Todd, with the following replies:


Councillor Carey referred to the review of Early Help Services on page 12 of the Agenda which recommended moving MASH to a different area.  He asked where the service had been repositioned.  Alan Adams, Director of Children & Adults Services, replied that one of the issues highlighted by Ofsted was the need to review the effectiveness of Early Help.  An audit by LSCB also recommended that the service is repositioned.  The repositioning of MASH to Specialist Services was part of this review.


Cllr Carey referred to page 13 of the agenda regarding Operation Concordia and asked if gang violence was an emerging issue.  He asked how dangerous and worrying this issue was.  Donald McPhail replied that Operation Concordia was an initiative from the Met Police and that Hounslow as a Borough did not fit their high category profile.  Additional money was allocated to high category “gang” boroughs.  The Board reviewed the impact of gang related crime and reviewed serious incidents deemed to be gang related for report to the Board. 


Councillor Todd referred to Serious Case Reviews (page 27 of the agenda) and asked who would see the reports.  Donald McPhail replied that it would be presented to the Board for finalising and would be published unless there was a reason that the review could not be published fully due to circumstances of the case.  The Board would try to maximise publication of the report.


Councillor Todd referred to page 32 of the agenda report on CSE terms of reference for the Sub Committee, particularly point 1 – to receive and analyse date on child sexual exploitation in Hounslow.  He asked what data the Board received on CSE.  Donald McPhail replied that this referred to data from the Met Police which needed to be analysed in relation to data for neighbouring  ...  view the full minutes text for item 9.


Hounslow Under-5s Offer pdf icon PDF 68 KB


See the report by Ben Knight, Policy and Scrutiny Officer, agenda item5, page 77.


There was a presentation by Chrissie Elam, Head of Early Years, Sandra Morrison, Early Help Services, and the meeting was also attended by Michael Marks, Assistant Director of Early Intervention and Education Services and Councillor Tom Bruce, Cabinet Member for Education and Children’s Services.


The following points were noted from the presentation:


The Council proposed to consult on redesign of the provision and delivery of services for under-fives that would:

-        Raise the profile of public health issues – tooth decay and obesity

-        Improve school readiness

-        Target services for the most vulnerable residents in deprived areas

-        Increase places available  by an additional 56 places

-        Make savings of 1.8m through efficiencies

-        The option agreed by Cabinet for consultation was option 3 on the presentation which was to keep some children’s centres, change some centres to shared use and see how else services could be delivered through alternative provision such as leisure and other centres, to meet the duties placed on the Local Authority for two year olds.  The service would like to increase provision by 10% and improve the Family Services Information Directory so that families who are able to, can look for information themselves.


-        The proposed new model would have a lead centre in each locality offering the full Children’s Centre offer and other centres where there would be shared space offering childcare and other children’s activities.


-        The consultation was for 90 days which would end on 17th October 2015 and was being promoted through the website, an online questionnaire and working with colleagues in libraries and leisure centres. There are going to be focus groups held in each locality and drop in sessions at the Civic Centre. Staff would be spoken to about the proposals, a meeting with local MPs would take place. A reference group chaired by Cllr Bruce had been established, and key partners in health have been engaged.


Following consultation Michael Marks offered to report at the December Scrutiny meeting and share emerging themes, issues, ideas and proposals to include in final report to Cabinet on 15th December.  The new model would be implemented from January 2016.


Action:  Michael Marks would provide Ben Knight with dates of focus groups to be held so that Members could attend if they wished.


Cllr Tom Bruce, Cabinet Member for Education and Children’s Services, commented that there would be an enormous amount of interest likely as seen from the two petitions submitted.  There had been articles in the local paper and he understood that this would be an emotive issue from the focus group/open meetings he had attended.  He said that there needed to be a new way of delivering the service to the right demographic as well as deliver the savings required by Children’s Services.  It was not an easy decision to take.


Cllr Mitchell asked about proposed provision and the need to find places for  ...  view the full minutes text for item 10.


Work Programme 2015/16 pdf icon PDF 59 KB


See the report by Ben Knight, Policy and Scrutiny Officer, Agenda item 6, page 80 and appendix at page 84.



See the report by Ben Knight, Policy and Scrutiny Officer, Agenda item 6, page 80 and appendix at page 84.


After discussion it was decided that the next meeting would have reports on:


-        Progress on under-fives offer following consultation

-        Child health issues


Ian Duke referred to care leaver’s outcomes which was not on the work programme but indicators showed that care leavers outcomes were not as good as expected. Ian Duke said he would provide the Panel with further information so that they could consider whether they wished to add this topic to their work programme.


The Panel was asked to email ideas for the work programme to Ben Knight, Policy and Scrutiny Officer and/or Ian Duke, Head of Policy and Scrutiny.





Appendix - C&YP Scrutiny Panel Monitoring Sheet pdf icon PDF 108 KB


Cllr Collins referred to the monitoring sheet item 6.1 which should read SEND not SEN.  He also referred to the 2nd bullet point of item 6 regarding feedback on working with Relate and said that Relate were keen to work with the Council.


An update was requested for item 2 on the monitoring sheet referring to Minute 128 regarding deleted posts in Children’s Services. 


Action: Alan Adams would provide this information to Ben Knight, Policy and Scrutiny Officer, for forwarding to Members.



Urgent Business

Any business which the Chair agrees to accept on grounds of urgency.


There was no urgent business.