Hounslow Council

Agenda and minutes

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Welcome and Apologies for Absence


The Chair welcomed members to the meeting and apologies were noted. New members were introduced to the board including James Jolly who represented the new National Probation Service for Hounslow and Hillingdon and Dr Stephen Farrow, interim Director of Public Health who was appointed until the permanent appointment of a new Director of Public Health on 1 July 2014. The Chair also introduced the new Borough Commander, Chief Superintendent Paul McGregor. Borough Commander Paul McGregor confirmed that his appointment was on an interim basis for an unknown period of time. He has come from Wandsworth and based on the success achieved at the former borough he had been placed in Hounslow. He was looking forward to achieving the same success in Hounslow.


Minutes of the meeting held on 30 January 2014 & Matters Arising pdf icon PDF 83 KB


The minutes were approved.


Discussions took place on the following outstanding actions:


Agenda item 113 (Safe & Secure programme presentation)


Action iii: Nigel Farmer to establish if any funding was available to fund the Safe and Secure programme for Hounslow.


Chris Hogan, Director of Children’s services joined the meeting at this point.


Jagiwan Singh from the Sri Guru Singh Sabha Gurdwara also joined the meeting.


Agenda item 117 (Update on 2013-14 Q3 Outcomes Action Plan)


Action i & Action ii: Nigel Farmer confirmed that there was no lead officer for the outcome on reducing road and traffic fatalities however discussions were taking place to develop this outcome.











Proposal for Changes to the Community Safety Partnership Board and Board meeting pdf icon PDF 21 KB

For discussion


Nigel Farmer stated that at the last CSP Board meeting Councillor Mayne raised concerns around the membership and functionality of the CSP Board. In response to the concerns raised Nigel Farmer had prepared a proposal for changes to the CSP Board. It was generally felt that the work of the CSP-I Group was being duplicated at the CSP Board and that the two should be separated in terms of functionality. It was also felt that the membership of the CSP Board was too large with representation from partners and organisations who did not participate as regularly as they should do and that the CSP Board had too many unnecessary meetings. Therefore it was agreed to revise the functions and membership of the CSP Board and to reduce the meetings to twice a year. It was agreed to delegate all powers to the CSP-I Group to deliver the statutory duties of the CSP and for the CSP Board to monitor the performance of the CSP-I Group and to discuss any risks or issues that require partnership action. It was agreed by the members that voluntary agencies who wish to join as members of the CSP Board should be ratified by the council. 


Comments and questions:

·        Chris Domeney stated that Councillor Mayne’s main concern was around the lack of decision making taking place. He gave an example from the last CSP Board meeting where the CSP Board members were keen to implement the Safe and Secure gang-exit programme in Hounslow but no decision could be reached on whether or not to pursue this programme. Nigel Farmer responded by stating that currently the CSP-I Group made all decisions based on the assessment needs and the CSP Board ratified therefore the implementation of the Safe and Secure programme would need to be discussed at the next CSP-I Group.

·        Chris Domeney also asked whether the decision making authority had access to funding. Nigel Farmer stated that there was a specific budget for the CSP Board and CSP-I Group to access.

·        Stuart Low made the suggestion to defer the implementation of the proposal until after the elections.

·        Chris Domeney agreed and suggested allowing members to submit their comments and feedback on the proposal.

·        Chris Hogan expressed her view to be considered as a member of the CSP Board to represent Children’s Services. She shall forward this suggestion to the CSP-I Group.


Brendon Walsh, Director of REDe, joined the meeting at this point.



Members to provide their feedback and suggestions on the proposal for changes to the CSP Board to Nigel Farmer with the view to discuss and agree at the next CSP-I Group meeting.


Sex Worker Strategy pdf icon PDF 625 KB

For information


Nigel Farmer introduced the Sex Worker Strategy which was led by Permjit Chadha who worked with different partners to develop the strategy.


Comments and questions:

·        Stuart Low asked whether there were any costs attached to the delivery of the strategy. Nigel Farmer confirmed that there were costs involved and that there was a set budget to deliver this piece of work.

·        Borough Commander Paul McGregor was pleased to see the joint operation as he had concerns that different partners would adopt different policies. He also mentioned Operation Condor which was one of the biggest policing operations of the year to tackle unlicensed activity around the capital was being led by C I Rob Weir in Hounslow and one of the key areas was prostitution.

·        C I Rob Weir thanked the support which had been received from Hounslow Council and from the support worker who had been involved in developing the strategy. C I Rob Weir added that currently Hounslow Council and Hounslow Police were seeking legal advice on how users of the service could be ‘named and shamed’ legally. Another key aspect of this strategy was the partnership working with the Romanian police service to target cases where Romanian females had been trafficked into the UK to work as sex workers. C I Rob Weir stated that it was helpful to have this support as it provided a thorough understanding of cases in terms of culture and the organisation of the crime.

·        Stuart Low asked whether there was a system in place to support women and girls to exit the industry. C I Rob Weir confirmed that there was a dedicated support and advocacy service which helped those involved in prostitution to move on with their lives.

·        Brendon Walsh supported the idea to ‘name and shame’ offenders as he believed it was a good strategy to deter people from committing this offence.

·        Stuart Low asked whether it was legal to publicise offenders’ identity. C I Rob Weir stated that it was legal to do so after a conviction. Chris Domeney stated that a caveat would be required for offenders under the age of 18. Brendon Walsh confirmed that the ‘name and shame’ protocol will be within the confines of law.

·        Referring to paragraph two on page two of the Sex Worker Strategy Dr Stephen Farrow stated that the impression given in this part of the strategy was that all women and girls involved in sex work were from Romania. Dr Stephen Farrow believed that this piece of information could be misleading and was based on a small number of cases. He believed caveats should be included to provide an opportunity for readers to fully understand and interpret the data presented. Chris Hogan further added that caveats should be added to avoid misconceptions of certain communities and to ensure community cohesion was not affected.  Nigel Farmer agreed to review the strategy and remove the specifics.



Nigel Farmer to review the Sex Worker Strategy and remove text on the specifics  ...  view the full minutes text for item 123.


Community Safety Partnership Strategic Assessment 2013/2014 pdf icon PDF 2 MB

Paper for discussion, approval and to agree on following years Priorities and Outcomes for the Community Safety Strategy


Nigel Farmer introduced the CSP Strategic Assessment 2013/14 which assesses and evaluates the work that had been done to meet priorities that had been set out in 2013/14 and the aim was to refresh these priorities if required for the year 2014/15.


Guidance was sought from the CSP Board members on whether or not to continue with the same priorities from the previous year and whether the strategy that’s developed should be based around a year or three years. It was recommended by Nigel Farmer that a three year strategy could be implemented with the view to review and adjust the strategy as required. 


Comments and questions:

·        Chris Domeney suggested that the data collected and analysed should be meaningful for example there should be an effort made to collect consistent data before and after an intervention to see the impact that the intervention has had on the service/issue.

·        Referring to page five where it stated that Serious Youth Violence had increased by 30.3 per cent; Chris Hogan enquired the specifics around this increase. Borough Commander Paul McGregor stated that there had been a shift towards more violent offences and although Hounslow was not a ‘gangs’ borough; gangs from other boroughs were targeting Hounslow. Borough Commander stated that it was important not to become complacent as violence was on the increase such as gang related, sexual, youth and domestic.

·        Brendon Walsh was concerned that the data in the report did not reflect the reality which Borough Commander Paul McGregor had just highlighted.

·        C I Rob Weir explained that initiatives had been taken to reduce the seven crimes prioritised by MOPAC with a successful overall reduction of 15.8 per cent. It was also noted that there had been an increase in reporting due to the ‘Jimmy Saville Effect’ which had increased reporting of historic sexual offences. There had also been better reporting of domestic and Serious Youth Violence crime. C I Rob Weir also stated that at times reporting crime could be quite complex. C I Rob Weir however confirmed that reducing violent crime was a priority and efforts were being made to ensure bigger reductions.

·        James Jolly suggested that projects and data should sit under each strategy/plan and would like to see plans for each area. Nigel Farmer responded that the outcomes from last year were intentionally not circulated at this stage as the data was incomplete.

·        Stuart Low asked whether members of the CSP-I Group needed to review each partner strategy. James Jolly believed that it was the CSP Board who was the decision was making authority. Nigel Farmer confirmed that the CSP-I Group was the decision making authority and that the CSP Board ratified and monitored the CSP-I Group.

·        Chris Domeney stated that he was happy with the contents of the strategy but was still unsure about the governance and leadership of the partnership.

·        Borough Commander Paul McGregor stated that it was important to know what work MOPAC was funding to ensure funding was available.

·        Paul Durham stated that  ...  view the full minutes text for item 124.


Date of next meeting


It was agreed that the next CSP Board meeting will take place in July 2014. Date to be agreed.



Secretary and Sabeel Khan to agree the date for the next CSP Board meeting and the dates for all future meetings of CSP-I Group and CSP Board meetings for 2014/15.



Any other items which the Chair accepts for consideration on the grounds of urgency


·        Brendon Walsh mentioned an initiative taken by the London Borough of Harrow to make the streets of Harrow safer. The main concept was around partnership agencies working together to spend a day out on the streets to target businesses who were regularly littering, etc. The CSP Board members were keen to find out more about the initiative.



Brendon Walsh will contact London Borough of Harrow for more details.


·        Brendon Walsh also mentioned a case where residents of Fisher Lane Chiswick Hounslow were complaining of motorists speeding on this road. Brendon Walsh asked whether it was appropriate to raise this matter at the meeting. It was agreed that Brendon Walsh would consult with the appropriate department about this.

·        Brendon Walsh also stated that he had spent two days with MP Seema Malhotra on specific case work which required the interventions of multiple agencies. Brendon Walsh suggested that the CSP Board could learn from studying the case loads of MPs which would highlight key trends. Borough Commander Paul McGregor expressed his concern over this and thought that it would be more productive to review cases by common issues rather than case by case.