Hounslow Council

Agenda and minutes

Venue: Council Chamber, Civic Centre, Lampton Road, Hounslow

Contact: Farah Irfan-Khan by phone on 020 8583 2075 or by email at  farah.irfan-khan@hounslow.gov.uk 

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Welcome and Apologies for Absence - 19:00 to 19:05


Apologies were noted from Brian Close, Chris Benson, Councillor Ellar, Mary Macleod MP, Seema Malhotra MP and Councillor Mammat.


Robert Newell introduced himself as the representative in Seema Malhotra’s absence.


Minutes of the Meeting held on 18 November 2013 and Matters Arising - 19:05 to 19:10 pdf icon PDF 81 KB


The minutes were approved by the group.


Police Progress Update pdf icon PDF 185 KB

  • Safer Neighbourhood Team Reports
  • Crime Maps
  • Stop & Search Data

Additional documents:


DCS Carl Bussey began with a thank you to all of the CPCG members for their support. Referring to page 45 of the agenda; DCS Carl Bussey stated that phenomenal results had been achieved in Hounslow. DCS Carl Bussey also reassured the members about the credibility of the crime statistics of Hounslow. DCS Carl Bussey personally checked crime statistics on a daily basis and also confirmed that protocols were in place to ensure quality assurance such as dip sampling whereby MPS dipped into local data to check for credibility and call backs made on a random basis to volunteers, public members and victims to assess whether they received an effective and efficient service. DCS Carl Bussey was hoping to ensure more robust data collection on business crime as at the moment only 12% of business crime was being reported which would hopefully lead to increased investment and employment in Hounslow.




·        Mohammad Chaudhry congratulated DCS Carl Bussey and his team on achieving excellent results which were noted as above average performance with an overall reduction in crime and increases in arrests and victim satisfaction.


·        The Chair, Minoo Dhiri, formally congratulated DCS Carl Bussey and his team on behalf of the CPCG members for their excellent performance.




Police Community Consultation - Open Questions and Discussion (Group)


Questions and discussions (group):


·        Lata Dhiri raised an issue on the new LED lighting which was being installed in Hounslow. Speaking on behalf of a community member, Lata Dhiri suggested that the lights were not bright enough. DCS Carl Bussey responded by stating that white lights were scientifically proven to reduce crime. Councillor Mayne added that the installation of the new LED lights have met with some controversy because of similar reasons; too light, too bright, wrong height, etc. However Councillor Mayne stated that the new lights were a big improvement for many reasons including remote control of the lights and the savings being achieved because of the new lights.



Police Community Consultation - Open Questions and Discussion (Public)

Members of the Group or members of the public may raise matters regarding local policing. A more effective response can be provided if advance notice is given to the Secretary before 1pm on the day of the meeting. A question paper is enclosed with the agenda.


Questions and discussions (public):


·        As a Hounslow resident, Richard Eason presented some specific questions on the crime statistics. DCS Carl Bussey and C I Rob Weir acknowledged the questions and promised a comprehensive set of answers to the questions raised in due course.



C I Rob Weir to prepare a response to the questions raised by Richard Eason


·        Member of the public raised a question on a case related to an individual who was not present at the meeting. The Chair advised the member of the public to speak to DCS Carl Bussey after the meeting.





Update on the Transformation to Hounslow Safer Neighbourhood Board pdf icon PDF 424 KB


Mike Smith delivered a presentation on the progress made so far with the transformation of the Hounslow CPCG into a Safer Neighbourhood Board (SNB). Using non-prescriptive guidance provided by MOPAC a workshop was held on 9 December 2013 for the CPCG Executive Steering Group members to discuss the model of Hounslow SNB after which the first draft of the Hounslow SNB model was produced. Since then further discussions took place and a revised version was produced which was shared with the CPCG members at the meeting. The proposal was also shared with the Community Safety Implementation Group and the document was also going to be presented to the Community Safety Partnership Board. Mike Smith added that the document was subject to amendments as this was not the final version and requested members of the CPCG to present their comments and feedback.


Tom Burnham introduced himself as the Senior Programme Manager at MOPAC leading on policy and engagement. Tom Burnham briefly provided an overview on the proposed SNBs and confirmed that funding for SNBs will be a reduced amount of £5200 however SNBs will have access to the £1m Mayor’s London—wide Crime Prevention Fund for proposed projects which meet the set criteria. He also confirmed that this additional funding mechanism will ensure that funding received by SNBs will be at least the same if not more than they have received from MOPAC in the past.


Comments and questions:


·        Satvinder Buttar asked Tom Burnham about when the bidding will take place and also whether top slicing of the Crime Prevention Fund was being considered so that projects could start sooner than later. Tom Burnham stated that guidance on the bidding process shall be available soon and also stated that he would be happy to support Hounslow SNB with accessing the funding quickly once it’s available. 

·        Mohammad Chaudhry asked Tom Burnham whether unspent funds from 2013-14 can or cannot be taken forward to the following financial year. Tom Burnham stated that most probably the unspent funding will not be taken back by MOPAC however he needed to confirm this.

·        Councillor Collins raised question of intervention and asked Tom Burnham who the unspent money will be returned to and how will it be redistributed.



i.                    Tom Burnham to confirm whether or not unspent funding from 2013-14 could be taken forward to 2014-15.


·        Ernest Cooper raised concern over the exclusion of the membership of Hounslow Homes from the proposed Hounslow SNB and made a proposal for the Executive Steering Group to reconsider membership of Hounslow Homes. David Hardman agreed with the proposal. Councillor Collins was also in agreement and stated that he would formally write in to raise this concern.

·        Councillor Mayne asked whether the community organisations that will be representing the Afro Carribean and Eastern European communities will be specified at this stage and also believed it was not appropriate to group, for example, Eastern Europeans into one group without appropriate consideration so requested more work around this.

·        Councillor Mayne was also concerned  ...  view the full minutes text for item 40.


Date and Venue of Next Meeting: 17 March 2014