Hounslow Council


Agenda and minutes

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Contact: Jonathan Regal, Email: jonathan.regal@hounslow.gov.uk 020 8583 2075 

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21.

Apologies for absence, declarations of interest and any other communications from members

Minutes:

Liz Wolverson welcomed all to the meeting and asked everyone to introduce themselves.

 

Apologies for absence were received from Revd Andrew Downes, Natalie Evans, Mike Kenton, Louise Lawn, Steve Line, Faouzi Saffar and Jane Savill.

 

There were no declarations of interests.

22.

Minutes of the meeting held on 5 November 2014 and matters arising pdf icon PDF 89 KB

Minutes:

The minutes of the meeting held on 5 November were agreed and signed by the Chair as a correct record.

23.

Determinations

Minutes:

The SACRE had six applications for determination before it and as there were no representatives from the schools made their decision based on the provided evidence.  Each of the schools was asked to reapply for determination at the previous meeting due to insufficient evidence in their original application submitted at the previous meeting.

23a

Alexandra Primary School pdf icon PDF 43 KB

Evidence of the governors’ deliberations on the matter

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The school was asked to provide evidence that the school governing body had considered the application to renew the current determination.

 

The SACRE felt that the governing body had discussed and agreed the application as stated in the excerpt of the minutes (page 29 of the agenda).  The SACRE was happy with the survey (page 27 of the agenda) as a means for consulting parents but were concerned that there was no response given.

 

The SACRE awarded the determination in respect of collective worship for a period of five years, expiring 4 February 2020.

23b

Cranford Primary School pdf icon PDF 49 KB

Evidence that consultation had been carried out with the school’s parent body

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The school was asked to provide evidence that the school parent body had been consulted on the application to renew the current determination.

 

The SACRE was happy with the letter to parents (page 40 of the agenda) and the response from the school governing body (page 41 of the agenda) as there appears to be no objection to the application.

 

The SACRE awarded the determination in respect of collective worship for a period of five years, expiring 4 February 2020.

23c

Hounslow Heath Infant and Nursery School pdf icon PDF 146 KB

Evidence that consultation had been carried out with the school’s parent body

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The school was asked to provide evidence that the school parent body had been consulted on the application to renew the current determination.

 

The SACRE was concerned about some of the content of the letter to parents (page 50 of the agenda) as schools needed to be more clear and specific about the application.  As there were no objections from parents to the application, the SACRE felt that their concerns were general and that the application form and supporting documents needed to be revised.

 

The SACRE awarded the determination in respect of collective worship for a period of five years, expiring 4 February 2020.

23d

Hounslow Heath Junior School pdf icon PDF 45 KB

Evidence that consultation had been carried out with the school’s parent body

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The school was asked to provide evidence that the school parent body had been consulted on the application to renew the current determination.

 

The SACRE felt that the letter sent to parents (page 61 of the agenda) was a positive example of how a consultation letter to parents should be.  The SACRE was convinced that parents had been consulted as evidence through the reply in 3d) of the application form (page 53 of the agenda).

 

The SACRE awarded the determination in respect of collective worship for a period of five years, expiring 4 February 2020.

23e

Norwood Green Infant and Nursery School pdf icon PDF 20 KB

Evidence that consultation had been carried out with the school’s parent body

Additional documents:

Minutes:

The school was asked to provide evidence that the school parent body had been consulted on the application to renew the current determination.

 

The SACRE felt that the letter sent to parents (page 70 of the agenda) could be improved but were content that there had been no objections from parents to the application.

 

The SACRE awarded the determination in respect of collective worship for a period of five years, expiring 4 February 2020.

23f

Springwell Infant and Nursery School pdf icon PDF 232 KB

Evidence that consultation had been carried out with the school’s parent body

Minutes:

The school was asked to provide evidence that the school parent body had been consulted on the application to renew the current determination.

 

The SACRE was happy that parents had received the letter (page 77 of the agenda) as there had been a reply that was subsequently retracted.

 

The SACRE awarded the determination in respect of collective worship for a period of five years, expiring 4 February 2020.

 

Resolved:

 

That all schools be notified in writing of the Hounslow SACRE’s decisions to award the determination in respect of collective worship for a period of five years, expiring 4 February 2020.

 

24.

SACRE Membership Update

Mike Kenton newly appointed Roman Catholic representative

Minutes:

SACRE noted that the Roman Catholic Dean of Hounslow had confirmed that Mike Kenton, Chair of Governors at Rosary School, Heston had been nominated to sit on SACRE as the Roman Catholic representative.

25.

SACRE Annual Lecture

Minutes:

Lesley Prior reported that it was proposed to hold the Annual Lecture on 10 March and that both standing borough MPs had been invited to debate about their concerns, discussions and debates in Westminster that support Religious Education locally and nationally.

 

In response to comments from members, Lesley Prior said that:

        she understood their concerns regarding purdah and the political sensitivity with regards to debating during this period.

 

        she acknowledged concerns about the need to invite all the parliamentary candidates and agreed that this debate should be delayed.

 

The SACRE agreed that Ranvir Singh provide the Annual Lecture speech on religious education.

 

Resolved:

 

  1. That the Clerk email local MPs to advise them that the lecture had been postponed until September.

 

  1. That the Clerk book a large meeting room for the Annual Lecture on 10 March.

26.

Holocaust Memorial Event

Minutes:

Eileen Crabtree reported that the Holocaust Memorial event held on Thursday 22 January 2015 was extremely poignant with a positive story instead of horrific accounts of previous years.  She explained that Holocaust survivor, Ernest Simon, a Jewish child refugee born in Austria, had survived the Holocaust as part of the Kindertransport rescue to England.  In the informative speech Mr Simon explained how his immediate family was fortune to survive the Holocaust and that he had little memory of the train ride through Europe to The Hook of Holland and the ensuing boat to England.  He cautioned that the Holocaust was a warning that hatred was not too far away and that humans were still capable of inflicting suffering especially with the spectre of anti-Semitism rising again recently in Europe (i.e. Paris).

 

Basil Mann informed the meeting that over 100 people including school children attended the event.  The event was a success and Mr Simon’s speech was well received.

27.

Update on Current Developments in Religious Education Nationally - Lesley Prior

27a

Lord Nash letter to SACREs pdf icon PDF 272 KB

Minutes:

Lesley Prior said that there were still challenges to the provision of religious education but there had been some movement as illustrated in Lord Nash’s letter.  It was ironic that the Minister responsible for faith schools where SACRE had no responsibility was addressing the “important role SACREs and local authorities” had “in supporting” religious education.

 

Following the recent events in Birmingham schools and Paris, religious education and SACRE were back on the government’s agenda.  The letter highlighted a number of positive statements:

        “The role of a SACRE” was “to support the religious education curriculum and collective worship within schools.  Local authorities” had “a duty to enable SACREs to fulfil their statutory responsibilities in these areas”.

 

        “It may be appropriate for the local authority to support the SACRE’s work to provide teacher training in RE and collective worship training”.

 

        The DfE intention “to commission a review of SACRE annual reports to identify good practice, and ensure that all SACREs” were “fulfilling their statutory duties”.

 

In response to a query about funding the SACRE and training RE teachers, the Chair said that she understood that local authorities had tightened budgets and asked that any funds remaining in the SACRE budget be allocated for teacher training.

 

Action:          Clerk

27b

Promoting fundamental British values as part of pupils' spiritual, moral, social and cultural (SMSC) development pdf icon PDF 205 KB

Minutes:

Lesley Prior reported that this paper emerged through the unfortunate situation in some Birmingham schools.  The paper gave a number of examples through the promotion of religious education and collective worship to meet the fundamental promotion of British values including:

        “That maintained schools should promote pupils’ spiritual, moral, social and cultural (SMSC) development”.

 

        “Further tolerance and harmony between different cultural traditions by enabling students to acquire an appreciation of and respect for their own and other cultures”.

 

        “Use teaching resources from a wide variety of sources to help pupils understand a range of faiths”.

 

        “Use teaching resources from a wide variety of sources to help pupils understand a range of faiths”.

 

Penny Stephen said that the paper was circulated to all Hounslow schools and that officers were communicating with schools to find out what they were doing within their school, community or globally.

 

Revd Rosemary Hoad summed up that the paper supported the role of SACRE and religious education as it stated that “meeting requirements for collective worship” was among the “ways of ensuring pupils’ SMSC development”.

28.

Norwood Green Junior School - application for determination with DfE

Minutes:

Lesley Prior reported that Norwood Green Junior School was now an academy so the application for determination in respect to collective worship was now the responsibility of the DfE.

29.

Meeting dates for next year

The next meeting will be held on Wednesday 24 June with further meeting dates on Monday 2 November and Monday 29 February 2016.

Minutes:

The SACRE noted that the next meeting would be held on Wednesday 24 June with further meetings on Monday 2 November and Monday 29 February 2016.

30.

Any Other Urgent Business

Minutes:

(a)               Annual SACRE report

Lesley Prior asked whether the Annual Report had been sent to the relevant bodies.

 

Action:          Clerk

 

(b)               People Peace Parade 2015

Councillor Mukesh Malhotta reported that the first ‘People’s Peace Parade’ in Hounslow will be held on Saturday 21 March 2015 at 2pm, in Hounslow, at the junction of the High Street, Hanworth Road and School Road.  The Parade would go from Hounslow High Street to Bell Corner, where there will be a short speech, and onto Hounslow Gurdwara ‘Sri Guru Singh Sabha’, in Alice Way (off Hanworth Road).

 

The aim of the parade was to bring all the adults and children from the Borough of Hounslow and the surrounding boroughs together, to focus on peace and the rights of children in the UK and the rest of the world.  Young people should have the right to grow up in a safe, peaceful and healthy environment free from the ravages of war, poverty, hunger, discrimination, injustice, slavery and abuse.

 

(c)               School visits

Basil Mann said he had visited Heston and Norwood Green schools to give speeches on the Jewish faith.  He was willing to speak at other schools or to faith groups.

 

(d)               Prevention guidance consultation

The Chair reported that she had responded to the Counter-Terrorism and Security Bill that placed a duty on specified authorities, including schools, to ‘have due regard, in the exercise of its functions, to the need to prevent people from being drawn into terrorism’.  The draft guidance to the Bill was published on 17 December 2014 with a six-week consultation (deadline 30 January 2015). (https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/388934/45584_Prevent_duty_guidance-a_consultation_Web_Accessible.pdf)

 

The draft guidance asked schools, as a specified authority, to:

        help prevent people becoming terrorists or supporting terrorism;

 

        challenge extremist ideas where they were used to legitimise terrorism and were shared by terrorist groups.

 

SACRE members raised the following points on the guidance:

        there was existing statutory guidance on monitoring of terrorism.

 

        the procedure needed altering as parents of suspects needed to be consulted before any action was taken which seemed illogical.

 

        the local authority was responsible to monitor schools and it was paramount that this was done as Ofsted would fail schools if they were not monitoring their student body and their media.

 

        information needed to be shared with the Police especially now following the heightened of security following Paris.

 

        ethnic minorities were worried about the current situation and that the Police in neighbouring boroughs were present outside some places of worship such as synagogues.

 

Penny Stephen was unaware whether a response had been sent by the Council.  However, she felt that the MASH (multi-agency safeguarding hub) and community cohesion would raise specific issues with schools.

 

[Note to members:  following the meeting the Clerk was provided with the following response with regard to the consultation:

LB Hounslow formally responded to the Home Office consultation on Prevent duty guidance: a consultation by the 30 January 2015 deadline.  The response included submissions from a number  ...  view the full minutes text for item 30.